George WarnerAge: 65 years1851–1916
- Name
- George Warner
- Given names
- George
- Surname
- Warner
![]() | January 12, 1851 33 28 |
![]() | Jacob Stout June 2, 1853 (Age 2 years) |
![]() | Deliah Warner September 1853 (Age 2 years) |
![]() | Jacob Warner Jr March 12, 1854 (Age 3 years) |
![]() | Rebecca Stout 1856 (Age 4 years) |
![]() | Influenza Epidemic between 1857 and 1859 (Age 5 years)Note: In 1857-1859, there was an extremely severe worldwide outbreak of influenza - http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3884 |
![]() | August 1, 1860 (Age 9 years) |
![]() | American Civil War between April 1861 and May 1865 (Age 10 years)Note: In the spring of 1861, tensions between the northern and southern United States over issues including state's right versus federal authority, westward expansion and slavery exploded into the American Civil War - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War |
![]() | Jacob Warner December 1, 1867 (Age 16 years) |
![]() | The Alaska Purchase 1867 (Age 15 years)Note: The Alaska Purchase was the purchase of 586,412 square miles of new territory by the United States from the Russian Empire (a bargain at two cents an acre) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Purchase |
![]() | Yellow Fever Epidemic 1867 (Age 15 years)Note: 3,093 perished from yellow fever in New Orleans - http://historyengine.richmond.edu/episodes/view/306 |
![]() | December 15, 1867 (Age 16 years) |
![]() | October 19, 1868 (Age 17 years) |
![]() | October 19, 1868 (Age 17 years) |
![]() | December 2, 1868 (Age 17 years) Note: The Court ruled that since that Jacob Warner's minor children (George, Jacob, and Delilah) Guardian (Jeremiah Warner) failed to appear .... that Homer W Ayers would now be their Guardian |
![]() | December 26, 1868 (Age 17 years) |
![]() | Transcontinental Railroad completed 1869 (Age 17 years)Note: The First Transcontinental Railroad was a 1,907-mile contiguous railroad line constructed between 1863 and 1869 across the western United States to connect the Pacific coast with the existing Eastern U.S. rail network - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Transcontinental_Railroad |
![]() | July 15, 1870 (Age 19 years) Note: George Warner was a Boarder in the household of Henry K Schanck |
![]() | Ellen Tilbury — View this family January 1, 1873 (Age 21 years) |
![]() | Eliza Deliliah Ullery September 9, 1877 (Age 26 years) |
![]() | Yellow Fever Epidemic of 1878 1878 (Age 26 years)Note: Over 13,000 deaths occurred from yellow fever in lower Mississippi Valley - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_yellow_fever |
![]() #1 | Bert Elwood Warner November 24, 1879 (Age 28 years) |
![]() | June 1, 1880 (Age 29 years) |
![]() #2 | Estella Grace Warner October 3, 1882 (Age 31 years) |
![]() #3 | Harry Clark Warner March 4, 1885 (Age 34 years) |
![]() | Mary Molly Houser March 2, 1886 (Age 35 years) |
![]() #4 | Carey George Warner March 11, 1888 (Age 37 years) |
![]() #5 | Jesse H Warner April 12, 1890 (Age 39 years) |
![]() #6 | Vern Frank Warner August 3, 1892 (Age 41 years) |
![]() #7 | Guy Gardner Warner February 1895 (Age 44 years) |
![]() | Spanish-American War between April 1898 and August 1898 (Age 47 years)Note: The Spanish-American War was a conflict in 1898 between Spain and the United States, the result of American intervention in the Cuban War of Independence - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish%E2%80%93American_War |
![]() #8 | Flossie E Warner November 16, 1898 (Age 47 years) |
![]() | Flossie E Warner June 9, 1899 (Age 48 years) |
![]() | June 13, 1900 (Age 49 years) |
![]() | Jacob Warner Jr April 12, 1902 (Age 51 years) |
![]() | Burt A Layman — Estella Grace Warner — View this family September 5, 1905 (Age 54 years) |
![]() | Carey George Warner — Mertie Mae Wheaton — View this family 1909 (Age 57 years) |
![]() | Louisa J Warner February 28, 1909 (Age 58 years) |
![]() | April 5, 1910 (Age 59 years) |
![]() | Bert Elwood Warner — Anna Clara M Berbaum — View this family 1912 (Age 60 years) |
![]() | Harry Clark Warner — Maude Frances Clapper — View this family April 20, 1914 (Age 63 years) |
![]() | Vern Frank Warner — Rose C Gilmore — View this family 1914 (Age 62 years) |
![]() | Jesse H Warner — Pauline Call — View this family 1916 (Age 64 years) |
![]() | Guy Gardner Warner — Etta A Barber — View this family 1916 (Age 64 years) |
![]() | April 2, 1916 (Age 65 years) |
![]() | George Warner Jr Obituary April 3, 1916 (1 day after death)Note: The Obituary states that he is the nephew of Jesse W Warner. |
![]() | Polio Epidemic 1916 (Age 64 years)Note: Over 7,000 deaths and 27,363 cases reported in America's worst polio (infantile paralysis) epidemic - http://goo.gl/ZBEQA1 |
![]() | April 22, 1916 (20 days after death) |
![]() | Harry Clark Warner February 17, 1964 (Age 113 years) |
![]() | Cemetery - also add to Place of burial: Riverside Cemetery |
Family with parents |
father |
Jacob Warner Birth: 1818 26 22 — Ross, Ohio, United States Death: December 1, 1867 |
mother |
Rebecca Stout Birth: June 6, 1822 30 23 — Pennsylvania, United States Death: 1856 — Champaign, Illinois, United States |
Marriage: March 13, 1842 — Pickaway, Ohio, United States |
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3 years elder brother |
Henry L Warner Birth: March 16, 1845 27 22 — Ohio, United States Death: January 25, 1931 — Danville, Vermilion, Illinois, United States |
3 years elder sister |
Mary Ann Warner Birth: January 1848 30 25 — Pickaway, Ohio, United States Death: March 26, 1924 — Sardorus, Champaign, Illinois, United States |
13 months elder sister |
Louisa J Warner Birth: February 4, 1849 31 26 — Pickaway, Ohio, United States Death: February 28, 1909 — Monticello, Piatt, Illinois, United States |
23 months himself |
George Warner Birth: January 12, 1851 33 28 — Pickaway, Ohio, United States Death: April 2, 1916 — Condit, Champaign, Illinois, United States |
3 years younger sister |
Deliah Warner Birth: September 1853 35 31 — Ohio, United States Death: April 27, 1933 — Worland, Washakie, Wyoming, United States |
6 months younger brother |
Jacob Warner Jr Birth: March 12, 1854 36 31 — Rockaway, Seneca, Ohio, United States Death: April 12, 1902 — Illinois, United States |
Family with Ellen Tilbury |
himself |
George Warner Birth: January 12, 1851 33 28 — Pickaway, Ohio, United States Death: April 2, 1916 — Condit, Champaign, Illinois, United States |
wife |
Ellen Tilbury Birth: January 27, 1855 — Hillsdale, Michigan, United States Death: November 27, 1934 — Mahomet, Champaign, Illinois, United States |
Marriage: January 1, 1873 — Champaign, Illinois, United States |
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7 years son |
Bert Elwood Warner Birth: November 24, 1879 28 24 — Champaign, Illinois, United States Death: September 1955 — Illinois, United States |
3 years daughter |
Estella Grace Warner Birth: October 3, 1882 31 27 — Mahomet, Champaign, Illinois, United States Death: August 17, 1970 — Rockwell City, Cerro Gordo, Iowa, United States |
2 years son |
Harry Clark Warner Birth: March 4, 1885 34 30 — Illinois, United States Death: February 17, 1964 — Greene, Missouri, United States |
3 years son |
Carey George Warner Birth: March 11, 1888 37 33 — Champaign, Illinois, United States Death: December 1, 1918 — Weld, Colorado, United States |
2 years son |
Jesse H Warner Birth: April 12, 1890 39 35 — Urbana, Champaign, Illinois, United States Death: August 11, 1959 — Champaign, Illinois, United States |
2 years son |
Vern Frank Warner Birth: August 3, 1892 41 37 — Mahomet, Champaign, Illinois, United States Death: November 1969 — Illinois, United States |
3 years son |
Guy Gardner Warner Birth: February 1895 44 40 — Illinois, United States Death: 1956 — Illinois, United States |
4 years daughter |
Flossie E Warner Birth: November 16, 1898 47 43 — Illinois, United States Death: June 9, 1899 — Illinois, United States |
George Warner has 8 first cousins recorded
Father's family (8)
Parents George Warner + Maria Dubois Welch
Parents George Warner + Elizabeth Steen
Parents Milton Henry Davis + Martha Jane Warner
Mother's family (0)
Birth | CONCLUSION: Due to the overwhelming supporting records, I feel that Jacob Warner (I23145) is the father of George Warner (I31571). I believe that George Warner (I31569) is NOT the biological father. Read on for the details.
DETAILS:
For the sake of simplicity, I will refer to George Warner (I31569) as George_1 and George Warner (I31571) as George_2.
There is a possible issue with identifying the parents of George Warner (I31571). There are supporting documents that clearly shows that Rebecca Stout (I23147) is his mother. All but one of the documents point to his father being Jacob Warner. A single document suggests that George_1, Jacob's brother, might be the father of George_2.
The 1860 Census records show George_2 living with Jacob and Rebecca. After Jacob died in 1867, his Probated Will clearly specifies George_2 is his son and entitled to some inheritance. Moreover, George_2 is identified as a minor with Jacob's brother, Jeremiah Warner (9KDJ-J8Z, being appointed as his Guardian for Probate proceedings.
The 1870 Census shows that some of Jacob's children are living with relatives or on their own. Jacob's daughter, Deliah Warner (I23009), is living as a servant girl with George_1. Note that there is no record of George_2 being at the George_1 residence during that Census period.
Subsequent to the 1870 Census, George_2 marries and has several children. He is shown in the 1880 Census (Bondville, Champaign, Illinois), 1900 Census (Condit, Champaign, Illinois), and 1910 Census (Calhoun, Calhoun, Iowa). He dies in 1916 and a tombstone photo is shown in Findagrave. Note that the tombstone is inscribed with "George Warner Jr".
There is a single document obtained from the "Illinois Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947". There is only a transcribed version and not an image to review. This transcription states name of George_2 as "George Warner", identifies his death date as "April 2, 1916", shows that his death location was "Condit, Champaign, Illinois", and correctly states his birth place/date as "Pickaway, Ohio and Jan 12, 1851". Additionally, the document states his mother is Rebecca Stout. The major inconsistency is that the Illinois document lists the father as George Warner (aka George_1). Note that George_1 is also buried (1914) in the Riverside Cemetery as George_2. Note that George_1 tombstone inscription is "George Warner" with no "Sr" designator. It is key to note that both George_1 and George_2 probably lived in close proximity during the time of their deaths.
Before the biological father can be 100% established, an actual Birth Certificate that was created in 1851 is needed. Right now, the Illinois reference document seems to have been created in 1916 which is 60 years after Rebecca died and 49 years after Jacob died. It is clear that Rebecca is George_2 mother. However, it seems that there are two options to consider who the biological father might be: Option #1 - George _1 or Option #2 - Jacob Warner.
OPTION #1:
Taking the Illinois document at face value, it suggests that George_1 had a child (George_2) with his sister-in-law, Rebecca, out of wedlock. There is no document showing that George_1 was ever married to Rebecca. Since George_2 was born in Jan 1851, he was conceived no earlier than early April 1850. At this time, Rebecca was 28 years old and George_1 would have been 16 years old. I question the likelihood of a 28 year old lady having a relationship with a 16 year old boy (her nephew) during that time period in history. However, if she did have that relationship, it seems odd that the child would be named George Jr and then be raised by the boy's uncle, Jacob. Also note, that aside from the Illinois document there are no records showing that George_1 was ever associated with George_2. He could have certainly had that opportunity to "take back" his son in time for the 1870 Census in which George_2's sister, Deliah, was living with George_1. Also, in George_1's Obituary ("The Champaign Chronical", Feb 3, 1914), it states that "...to them five children were born ...". Public records show these children to be Rosetta, Jonah Leander, Rose Ella, Nellie Dell, and Bertie Steen. Note that George_2 is not mentioned as being a child of George_1.
OPTION #2:
The pre-1916 supporting documents clearly show/suggest that George_2 is the son of Jacob. George_2 is shown in the 1860 Census and referenced in Jacob's Will. It is key to note that the Guardian assigned to George_2 is Jeremiah Warner (I31553) and not George_1. These supporting facts would suggest that Jacob is the father and George_1 is not. I think what happened is that Jacob did sire George_2 and raised him until Jacob's 1867 untimely death. At that time, George_2 was "on his own", drifted a while, married, established a family, died in 1916 Illinois, and was buried in the Riverside Cemetery as "George Warner Jr". I do not believe that he was the son of George_1 who was also buried in Riverside Cemetery as there is no evidence, either real or anecdotal, that supports the relationship. I think that in the mid 1910's George_1 and George_2 had a close uncle-nephew relationship and socialized. When George_2 died, I think the Illinois document was created with the author thinking that since both men were named George and socialized, that the younger one must have been a Junior. In 1916, close to 50 yrs had passed after Jacob died and perhaps no one (i.e., the document author or local family) remembered Jacob.
PLAN:
Until we can find an actual birth certificate for George_2, I will assume that Jacob and Rebecca are the parents of George_2. I will include this rationale as a Shared Note in the profiles for Jacob, Rebecca, George_1, and George_2. It at least opens up for the remote possibility that George_1 is the father of George_2 ... pending an actual Birth Certification being found to definitively answer the parental question.
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Census | 1860 United States - Census transcript - Jacob Warner - Household
Champaign, Illinois, United States
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Probate | The Court ruled that since that Jacob Warner's minor children (George, Jacob, and Delilah) Guardian (Jeremiah Warner) failed to appear .... that Homer W Ayers would now be their Guardian | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Census | 1870 United States - Census transcript - George Warner - Boarder
Union, Miami, Ohio, United States
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Census | George Warner was a Boarder in the household of Henry K Schanck | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Census | 1880 United States - Census transcript - George Warner - Household
ED 22 Bondville, Champaign, Illinois, United States
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Census | 1900 United States - Census transcript - George Warner - Household
ED 11 Condit, Champaign, Illinois, United States
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Census | The 1900 Census stated that George/Ellen had a total of 11 children with 7 of them still living. The living children are accounted for in the current family tree. I have been unable to find the other 4 children which were deceased by 1900.
It is possible that the 4 children were buried at the Riverside Cemetery; but, there is no record of their burial. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Census | 1910 United States - Census transcript - George Warner - Household
ED 25 Calhoun, Calhoun, Iowa, United States
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Obituary | The Obituary states that he is the nephew of Jesse W Warner. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Shared note | CONCLUSION: Due to the overwhelming supporting records, I feel that Jacob Warner (I23145) is the father of George Warner (I31571). I believe that George Warner (I31569) is NOT the biological father. Read on for the details.
DETAILS:
For the sake of simplicity, I will refer to George Warner (I31569) as George_1 and George Warner (I31571) as George_2.
There is a possible issue with identifying the parents of George Warner (I31571). There are supporting documents that clearly shows that Rebecca Stout (I23147) is his mother. All but one of the documents point to his father being Jacob Warner. A single document suggests that George_1, Jacob's brother, might be the father of George_2.
The 1860 Census records show George_2 living with Jacob and Rebecca. After Jacob died in 1867, his Probated Will clearly specifies George_2 is his son and entitled to some inheritance. Moreover, George_2 is identified as a minor with Jacob's brother, Jeremiah Warner (9KDJ-J8Z, being appointed as his Guardian for Probate proceedings.
The 1870 Census shows that some of Jacob's children are living with relatives or on their own. Jacob's daughter, Deliah Warner (I23009), is living as a servant girl with George_1. Note that there is no record of George_2 being at the George_1 residence during that Census period.
Subsequent to the 1870 Census, George_2 marries and has several children. He is shown in the 1880 Census (Bondville, Champaign, Illinois), 1900 Census (Condit, Champaign, Illinois), and 1910 Census (Calhoun, Calhoun, Iowa). He dies in 1916 and a tombstone photo is shown in Findagrave. Note that the tombstone is inscribed with "George Warner Jr".
There is a single document obtained from the "Illinois Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947". There is only a transcribed version and not an image to review. This transcription states name of George_2 as "George Warner", identifies his death date as "April 2, 1916", shows that his death location was "Condit, Champaign, Illinois", and correctly states his birth place/date as "Pickaway, Ohio and Jan 12, 1851". Additionally, the document states his mother is Rebecca Stout. The major inconsistency is that the Illinois document lists the father as George Warner (aka George_1). Note that George_1 is also buried (1914) in the Riverside Cemetery as George_2. Note that George_1 tombstone inscription is "George Warner" with no "Sr" designator. It is key to note that both George_1 and George_2 probably lived in close proximity during the time of their deaths.
Before the biological father can be 100% established, an actual Birth Certificate that was created in 1851 is needed. Right now, the Illinois reference document seems to have been created in 1916 which is 60 years after Rebecca died and 49 years after Jacob died. It is clear that Rebecca is George_2 mother. However, it seems that there are two options to consider who the biological father might be: Option #1 - George _1 or Option #2 - Jacob Warner.
OPTION #1:
Taking the Illinois document at face value, it suggests that George_1 had a child (George_2) with his sister-in-law, Rebecca, out of wedlock. There is no document showing that George_1 was ever married to Rebecca. Since George_2 was born in Jan 1851, he was conceived no earlier than early April 1850. At this time, Rebecca was 28 years old and George_1 would have been 16 years old. I question the likelihood of a 28 year old lady having a relationship with a 16 year old boy (her nephew) during that time period in history. However, if she did have that relationship, it seems odd that the child would be named George Jr and then be raised by the boy's uncle, Jacob. Also note, that aside from the Illinois document there are no records showing that George_1 was ever associated with George_2. He could have certainly had that opportunity to "take back" his son in time for the 1870 Census in which George_2's sister, Deliah, was living with George_1. Also, in George_1's Obituary ("The Champaign Chronical", Feb 3, 1914), it states that "...to them five children were born ...". Public records show these children to be Rosetta, Jonah Leander, Rose Ella, Nellie Dell, and Bertie Steen. Note that George_2 is not mentioned as being a child of George_1.
OPTION #2:
The pre-1916 supporting documents clearly show/suggest that George_2 is the son of Jacob. George_2 is shown in the 1860 Census and referenced in Jacob's Will. It is key to note that the Guardian assigned to George_2 is Jeremiah Warner (I31553) and not George_1. These supporting facts would suggest that Jacob is the father and George_1 is not. I think what happened is that Jacob did sire George_2 and raised him until Jacob's 1867 untimely death. At that time, George_2 was "on his own", drifted a while, married, established a family, died in 1916 Illinois, and was buried in the Riverside Cemetery as "George Warner Jr". I do not believe that he was the son of George_1 who was also buried in Riverside Cemetery as there is no evidence, either real or anecdotal, that supports the relationship. I think that in the mid 1910's George_1 and George_2 had a close uncle-nephew relationship and socialized. When George_2 died, I think the Illinois document was created with the author thinking that since both men were named George and socialized, that the younger one must have been a Junior. In 1916, close to 50 yrs had passed after Jacob died and perhaps no one (i.e., the document author or local family) remembered Jacob.
PLAN:
Until we can find an actual birth certificate for George_2, I will assume that Jacob and Rebecca are the parents of George_2. I will include this rationale as a Shared Note in the profiles for Jacob, Rebecca, George_1, and George_2. It at least opens up for the remote possibility that George_1 is the father of George_2 ... pending an actual Birth Certification being found to definitively answer the parental question.
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